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Does the government run the spy agencies, or do the spy agencies run the government?

Posted by on June 9, 2014.

The joke that dare not be taken seriously has always been that MI5 holds files on all major politicians — but now we must take it very seriously. It is the only proposition that fits the facts.

It explains why Blair in opposition was on the side of the people in the First Crypto War key escrow debate, but swung round to supporting the agencies in government. It explains why Cameron in opposition promised to roll back the database state, but has done exactly the opposite in government.

And it explains why our politicians so doggedly repeat GCHQ lies in the face of all evidence today.

One year ago, just days after the Guardian and Washington Post started publishing details from the Snowden files and revealed Prism for the first time, an earlier NSA whistleblower (Russel Tice) was saying:

They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial. But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people…
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In a new interview with Washington’s Blog this Saturday he has explained why none of this has (at least so far) emerged in any of the Snowden files. Snowden was involved in the NSA’s Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS); that is, its foreign surveillance. But the NSA also runs separate systems under the umbrella of Exceptionally Controlled Information (ECI). These are internal black operations for which Snowden had no access — but Tice did.

And what Tice told Washington’s Blog is that the NSA’s domestic spying program includes the interception of content (not just metadata) for “journalists and news organizations”, “Congressmen, their wives, their children, their staffers”, “Or an Admiral and his wife, and his kids and his staffers …”, but “The main thing I saw more than anything else were lawyers and law firms. I saw more lawyers or law firms being wiretapped than anything else.”

If this is happening in the US today, we can be absolutely certain that GCHQ/MI5 are doing the same in the UK. The question of whether the government runs the spy agencies or the spy agencies run the government through secret and incriminating dossiers is no longer a joke, but something we need to seriously consider. Because if the latter is true it explains an awful lot of anomalies.


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